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    Yup,we are now dead.

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    Post by crash September 22nd 2010, 5:52 pm

    EDIT: Sorry that it ended up being this long but please take your time to read it and comment.
    ~ Jamie

    READ THIS

    for the most of a week now the forums hasn’t changed at all (post
    wise.) so one question. what the hell is going on? we are losing
    players and losing activity.

    basicly what jamie said is this

    "i think we should close the server/forums sort it out of bugs/spam.
    So losing this forums,and making a new one,and sorting the server out
    of every bug/glitch."

    my plan is we have 2 forums admins.
    and 4 server testers -john included obv..-
    the 3 must be staff and trusted.

    once this is done we need to get more traffic to get on runelocus.

    also a note to john:you will have to quit your life for a week or
    two.. Razz
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    jamies thing

    Okay some ideas:

    1. Get people on server, and get them to list all the problems they
    could find with it so that we know what to fix with it (sure crash
    will find the most) (post here

    2. Close the server (or keep the current one open while working on
    another duplicate of it - so we don’t lose players), do a complete bug
    fix and sort out major problems with server

    3. Get new forums - the current ones are a complete mess and they
    just don't seem to be working to well for us. This might entail
    getting a new domain of some sort and then using some better forum
    software (as a temporary solution could use a "cracked" version of vB
    and then get vB when we have some more donations etc.)

    4. Possibly rebrand 'Powerscape' to something else that stands out
    more (yes I know this might take a little while to rebrand everything)
    however I think that we might have somehow gained a bad brand name
    from something or other

    5. Register Powerscape (or if we choose to rebrand w/e it becomes) on
    as many voting sites as possible; I suggest RuneLocus, Rune-Server,
    Moparscape and Frugooscape (might think of more soon) - We aren't
    getting enough traffic at the moment from the site we are on - we've
    dropped off the first page and because the website doesn't appear to
    be very good you cannot view the second. Also because we closed (and
    maybe rebranded) we might be able to say that we are a new server just
    opening, which might mean that we can gain new players that want to
    join a new server and stick with it from the beginning.

    6. Open server for 'beta' testing with listed problems sorted and
    sort out the bugs (giving warnings that chances are that accounts will
    be lost when we switch to being fully on), this would then give us the
    excuse for not being 24-7 and time to gain donations for VPS and the
    purchase of forum software.

    7. Look at the economy and everything and decide whether we should
    reset accounts & move onto the real version or just move on (this
    would be once we're happy that the 'beta' version is bug free enough
    to release0

    8. Keep voting for the server and making videos etc



    ----

    Ranks, groups and that crap (staff):

    Moderators (in-game, forums and global):
    - There should be maybe 3 of these to start with and increasing with
    number of players (not sure the player to mod ratio but it's not as
    high as Admins and the ratio would be the same number of forum Mods
    and in-game Mods and global mods should be 1 for every 3 other type of
    Mod at most)
    - In-game Moderators would have the same powers that they have in-game
    now and they wouldn't have any powers on the forum. They would be
    limited to having a forum rank rather than being grouped
    - Forum Moderators wouldn't have any powers in-game however they would
    be able to Lock, Move etc on the forums. They would be within a forum
    group allowing them to do this and would also have a forum rank.
    - Global Moderators would have both the powers of in-game Moderators
    and forum Moderators, allowing them forum moderation and server
    moderation.


    Administrators:
    - To start with I suggest having two Administrators and from there
    increasing the number of Admins as player numbers increase (1 Admin to
    every 5 - 10 players after original two - or maybe that's a little
    generous)
    - Admins would have powers on the server and forums and also have
    moderating abilities on the forums (trusted Admins would also have
    forum admin rights as well)
    - Admins would also have group rights and a rank

    Co-Owner / Head Administrator / Head of Staff (or whatever you want to
    call it):
    - Just one of these, they would be the user that other members of
    staff would turn to if they needed anything, meaning that it leaves
    John to do what he does best without being harassed Razz
    - Forum powers (allowing them to access the Admin panel) and also
    would be able to have powers on the server.
    - Would have forum rank and group.

    Founder(s): John


    * Adminstrators and Moderators with forum powers would be able to
    access a Moderator panel if we are using forum software with this
    function

    Additional:


    Beta testers:
    - Anyone who is willing to get on the server during the beta testing
    phrase and give feedback to any developers working on the server.
    (anyone should be able to access the server during the beta testing
    phrase however this rank should only be given to people willing to
    give feedback)
    - Beta testers would also be responsible for giving feedback to
    developers on bugs when we're out of beta testing stage (this job
    shouldn't be restricted to beta testers though and other staff members
    should also be doing this sort of thing)
    - A good step to becoming a Moderator and would make users looking
    for Moderator stand out above those that don't have this experience.
    - Would have a forum rank rather than group that would display to
    other forum users that they are a beta tester.

    Media team / Advertising team (maybe split these?):
    - Would be a team to turn to for media things (such as videos for
    Youtube etc) and would also be responsible for the wording of things
    like vote site descriptions and advertising on other websites etc.
    - forum rank.

    GFX team:
    - more of a informal team however it would let other users know who
    we trust as good trustworthy GFX people.
    - forum rank

    Donators:
    - People who donate to Powerscape
    - Forum rank and would be able to access premium-only items and areas
    on the server

    Banned:
    - People who've been banned from Powerscape
    - Forum group meaning limited access to the forums and no access to the server (this might be for a period of time or permanent basis)

    credits to jamie -gives him a cookie


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    Post by Jamie September 22nd 2010, 7:28 pm

    Epic idea's. Wink

    I don't expect any of these to be done anytime soon however I think they're something that might give us new members and more willing members.

    To be honest this would probably take at least 3 months to finish assuming that there isn't very many problems to fix (I understand that John has been working on it already and that he does have a life)

    * I gave Crash permission to post my edition of his post Razz
    I just decided that I would develop what crash said to begin with.


    Please don't hate Wink

    Also, John how much have we got currently from adverts/donations? (pm me if you don't feel it's suitable for public viewing Razz)
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    Post by crash September 22nd 2010, 8:06 pm

    i for one think that the -close server/forums and reopen when its all fixed- is great idea.
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    Post by Jamie September 22nd 2010, 8:08 pm

    crash wrote:i for one think that the -close server/forums and reopen when its all fixed- is great idea.

    Lol I'm sure if noone else has any criticisms of this Pantha will find some Razz
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    Post by crash September 22nd 2010, 8:21 pm

    well..

    INB4RAGE
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    Post by Jamie September 22nd 2010, 8:38 pm

    INB4REPLY :L

    And I don't think there will be any rage Wink
    If there is I hope people expect it to be removed..
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    Post by Connor September 22nd 2010, 10:14 pm

    NOOBZ! lol joke i just wanna post Razz
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    Post by Robin September 22nd 2010, 10:35 pm

    Nah John is probably to busy with his "life"to do this...
    (No offence)

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    Post by John September 22nd 2010, 11:18 pm

    these are nice ideas. I dont even want to think how many days it took to type that :L

    But yea, it would require a lot on you guys's part. I have a lot in my life at the moment, for instance tonight I couldn't get home to turn server on because of commitments with my band. < which takes up about 80% of my life. And this probably seems harsh but powerscape is getting less and less on my 'to-do list'.

    But yeah, maybe someday or if someone could get us going. Smile
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    Post by Robin September 22nd 2010, 11:23 pm

    John wrote:these are nice ideas. I dont even want to think how many days it took to type that :L

    But yea, it would require a lot on you guys's part. I have a lot in my life at the moment, for instance tonight I couldn't get home to turn server on because of commitments with my band. < which takes up about 80% of my life. And this probably seems harsh but powerscape is getting less and less on my 'to-do list'.

    But yeah, maybe someday or if someone could get us going. Smile
    No offence John but why do you host a RSPS if you barly care about it.
    I mean have fun with ur band but if PS is low on ur to do list I think this forum is more a friends/runescape(private) forum
    And my last question: Do you even like hosting a server?
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    Post by John September 22nd 2010, 11:34 pm

    I host it for you guys. Cause I know how much a lot of you would complain if i destroyed this community. It would be unfair.
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    Post by Jamie September 23rd 2010, 12:02 am

    John wrote:these are nice ideas. I dont even want to think how many days it took to type that :L

    But yea, it would require a lot on you guys's part. I have a lot in my life at the moment, for instance tonight I couldn't get home to turn server on because of commitments with my band. < which takes up about 80% of my life. And this probably seems harsh but powerscape is getting less and less on my 'to-do list'.

    But yeah, maybe someday or if someone could get us going. Smile

    Acutally it was more of a matter of hours but yea Razz

    We can start listing bugs and problems now (again) but it might be advisable to work on them one at a time and working on a solution of one thing before moving onto the next?

    What's your thoughts on rebranding/closing/re-opening/new forums?

    & how much we got as far as donations at the moment?

    Bug Report and suggestions thread:

    http://www.powerscapeonline.com/bug-glitch-reports-f10/yup-we-are-now-dead-improvement-bug-report-thread-t1319.htm#15957

    Any bugs your fix or generally anything you think needs fixing should be posted here. Anything prior to that thread might not be auctioned anytime soon unless its here.
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    Post by MyBlobby123 September 23rd 2010, 3:15 am

    God i need a bot that reads stuff for me lol.... but anyways. these are good ideas but i dont know how possible they are.
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    Post by Jamie September 23rd 2010, 9:06 am

    Urm I'm not sure what good a bot would be because you still wouldn't know what it says on the page.

    Yea, these are quite ambitious however the sooner we start with them the sooner we can finish.

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    Post by Robin September 23rd 2010, 9:58 am

    Kyle wrote:God i need a bot that reads stuff for me lol.... but anyways. these are good ideas but i dont know how possible they are.
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